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Our Sales Amps are ones we've Serviced, Restored & Upgraded and written up on this site. We'd not get amps that were not worth us spending time on, so the Amps We Sell are Our Choice. Ours have been given our full treatment of Servicing & Recapping which always includes Upgrades & even Redesign sometimes. Our prices do not compare to "Raw Unserviced" ones, as we've put hours of work & new parts in ours, so you get a nice ready to use amp instead of gambling on a tired amp. You can read for yourself to decide if we are just hyping items to sell them, or genuinely have a love for Vintage Hifi and want buyers to experience great amps. The Pre-1980 Hifi scene has many great amps with a Real Musical sound, not the lifeless thin sound of 'Hifi' today. Prices we state are NOT NEGOTIABLE although we may reduce the price ourselves at any time. We offer a generous Trade-In on Hifi We Sold that we'd like back again: ones we sold in the past on this site & ebay, but as our Reviews page shows, we didn't like them all equally. For Hifi we've not sold, Trade Ins are possible, but we are picky on the sort of amps we go for, though no harm in asking, but only the better quality or early amps similar to what we upgrade for our interest as our Reviews page shows. We have no interest in bulk cheap items, we want Quality & Interesting items, as in what this site sells in Hifi & Vinyl Records.
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New Readers should read the sections above the Sales items to understand what you are Buying from us as it's Serviced and Upgraded Hifi.
AMPS WE SELL...
WHAT YOU GET: All Amplifiers & Receivers we sell are Serviced, Cleaned & Upgraded to a very high standard as our photos show so they are "Use Daily" quality. We've had them on & running for hours, tested them on Speakers & Headphones. We try them on Headphones & our Tannoys to make sure they are right & to try them on big Speakers now is important to see how they match for our Research. We'd not trust our main speakers on an amp we were not confident about. Forget their overall age, these Vintage Transistor Amps are well made & with new capacitors & being serviced, they are good & reliable for years use & ones we upgrade are better than new for the higher spec. The amp will be delivered to you working as Described & will note any quirks. If an amp can't be made reliable then we don't sell it, to show how we deal sadly 3 amps reviewed in 2014 on the top Amps page ended up not being sold & used for spares. So be sure any Hifi you buy passes our Tests before offering for sale. Not all capacitors need upgrading: if the main power caps are still good & the values are decent, to replace them isn't required. We've cut open enough big capacitors to see how they age & know which ones will still be good.
Once you've read this page & see our way of dealing, you'll see we don't waste time with cosy fluffy adspeak talk, we say it straight. All our Hifi info pages are like this, probably the first time ever this sort of Hifi Info has been collected in one place & given the BS-free opinions by one who knows their subject & doesn't care much for accepted opinion: if we disagree we say it & tell you why we say it. If you like that attitude in selling Hifi, then these are the amps we research, upgrade & write about. We used to like Vinyl Records like this, see our Record Info pages, some older ones revived recently & include Hifi related info like Vinyl Quality has Stylus Size info & samples. There's even a page on Pre War Comic Annuals written similarly & we have a few Rare & Obscure ones for sale.
We, as select45rpm are independent, as our hype-free site will show. We are not affiliated with any other trader or technician & having seen another repair tech get linked to by what looks like a bogus trader, we add this here. We do not endorse or recommend any other hifi seller or technician. We are not sponsored by any corporate company & would refuse any advertising on our pages which get a lot of hits & could easily rake us in advertising revenue. If you think to trust any other hifi tech, or any online trader, be sure to see if they have an established web presence with unique pages of information plus an ebay or amazon selling link. We know there are scammers out there & don't like hearing of people being conned. If you see anyone linking to us implying we endorse them, then be sure it is fake. We put all our info on this site to further the scene in Hifi & Records and to show potential customers what we know. It's a unique site we know...
WE SELL SERVICED, RECAPPED & UPGRADED AMPS
Most amps are designed to a certain spec to fit a price structure, less so with pre 1970 but tight to the penny post 1973. The spec of today is far higher than of old, but to know what to upgrade requires design knowledge to do correctly & fine tune our ideals by each amp so it's stable & reliable. Nearly all amps are very light on deep bass, this was to stop fools complaining who used cheap gear with good amps, so by about 1970 designs changed to keep things safe. This to us is not good, limited bass today isn't needed & amps sound far better upgraded. Some have very low spec throughout, post 1973 Pioneer may look the part but Pioneer were priced cheaper than the other big brands & did this by cost cutting. We upgrade to remove all their limits & dumbing down to make far superior amps. We do suspect Pioneer designed great amps but then the costing hatchet man chopped every last penny off hiding the beauty of the original sound. We put "the great sound" back. Upgrades with Design. We test our amps on Headphones & then often use them on speakers for a few days or more, just to see what they sound like & get used to them. This brings about more upgrade ideas the more we hear. We only get amps to upgrade that interest us or to get again if it was a good one. We're not interested in mass market post 1978 amps as they usually aren't worth upgrading. We sell Our Choice of ones we think are worth our efforts once we've upgraded them to see how good they are.
RESEARCHING BEFORE YOU BUY?
This usually means you'll be searching through Forums looking for opinions. Be aware most Forum opinions are uneducated & nearly every amp will have someone like it as well as not understand it or have a faulty or unserviced one & give a totally wrong opinion. Whatever you decide by searching, our Serviced & often Upgraded Amp we are selling will be a better product ready to use than buying a raw attic find. By Upgrading & Recapping, our amp will be done to our standards, as you can read on our Upgrades page. Hearing buyers say they didn't fancy the 'xxx' amp but wanted the (lesser) 'zzz' amp reveals they only find half ideas of opinions. We are selling amps we rate, but don't hype them & wouldn't bother getting amps we didn't think much of & spend so much time on them. We are not just getting general hifi here, we only get ones that interest us or have proved worthy so we get another one. If you are interested in the Hifi We Have For Sale but aren't quite sure, send us an email stating what your needs are & we'll give a reply suggesting which one will suit you best, but don't give lists of Hifi you have as we have no idea what it's like if we've not covered it on the site. You can also read our opinions of the amp we sell on the Top Amps page. With nearly 300 amps reviewed on Top Amps or Other Amps, as well as all the dozens of other pages, you can see our site is a bit different to any others. • Have a read of our Buying Advice page, as we can't advise you what to buy, this page explains why & lots more.
Do we know if any of our Sales Amplifiers & Receivers will match your Speakers? No. We are into Amps & all we've found about Speakers which tells details you'll not read elsewhere is on our Loudspeakers page. We usually hear from the Buyer as we have asked how they match to their Speakers & usually the Buyer is happy with the sound. Tone controls are usually needed to get the sound to the room, bass & treble gain or cut to a degree is usually needed with speakers. You can play your amp flat & be happy with that sound, or want full Tone plus Loudness, this is why these features are there. Read our Speakers page & you'll find many amps suit both pre 1975 & post 1975-modern speakers. Some don't match so well to early speakers and sound dull & some are too bassy-trebly for modern speakers. Read that page for more. All differ in impedance curves & frequency responses, all have differing crossovers. From hearing how buyers with multi driver speakers, ie bass, treble & midrange drivers, sometimes 5 drivers in one box, these are found to be too soft sounding as overdesigned on the crossovers. No quality speaker needs more than a bass woofer driver & a treble tweeter driver. Speakers that say suits 10w-50w or 50w-200w are based on Sensitivity, from 82dB to 105db. A less sensitive speaker will require more watts for a louder volume. You'd be surprised how much volume some of our late 1960s finds that are 10w-18w can put out on a 95db 15" speaker. Also how quiet some later 90w amps like the Sony 550ES play. It's all down to designs. Often you'll mix & match to find your ideal before you're happy with that for years. On headphones, all amps match equally as there is a resistor in the headphone socket circuit making an easier load on the amplifier. If the amp sounds dull or too lively, try it on headphones to hear it in a neutral way.
PRE 1970 AMPS ARE BEST SUITED TO 8 OHM SPEAKERS.
The earlier Amps have Early Designs as you'd expect, the first Proper Transistor amp was the 1965 Sony TA-1120 & by 1967 the First Generation of Amplifiers was here. By 1969 the Second Generation was here with some designs being much tamer than the earlier ones, perhaps more accurate to say 1969 was 'Transitional'. We've given "Generations" to amplifiers but more research gets more known. Really only the Differential-Era amps that arrived 1969-73 are the Third Generation & will be fully compatible with 4 ohm & 8 ohm speakers. We upgrade & test on 8 ohm speakers, our upgrades bring out the best in the Amps & we can be sure that 8 ohm speakers will work well. Some like the 1966 Akai AA7000 say "8 ohm speaker only" which is clear. Some say nothing. Some suggest 4-16 ohm speakers will suit but in 1969 they won't know what came later. IMPORTANT: CHECK THE SPEAKER IMPEDANCE. Some say Impedance 4-8 ohm which we've found is misleading as it's really only 4 ohm. We've found twice now that Celestion Dittons are a known difficult load for early amps. Ditton 44 (100w) & Ditton 33 (25w). HFE wrongly says "8 ohm" but look at the User Manuals to see 4-8 ohm. It can't be both resistances, it's 4 ohm. If you use these 4 ohm speakers on early amps, they will likely overheat as the load is half so the current is doubled. It may or may not damage the amp, but it's "User Error" which it does take these issues to realise. The Ditton 44 user we told to add 4 ohm resistors to the speaker cables & now the amp works fine. The Ditton 33 is told the same, but to use 25w speakers on a 50w+ amp is risky in itself. But we do know Celestion Ditton 66 work fine on the 1968 Sony STR-6120. See a Celestion Ditton review HERE highlighting the "Hard To Drive" and "Needing A 4 Ohm Capable Amp" It appears to depend on the amp & speaker match. Avoid 4 ohm speakers on pre Differential era seems to be the best advice. Many actually say "8 Ohm only" on the back. To be sure we're selling correctly to you, we'll add a note such as 8 ohm only or 4-8 ohm on the Sales page having checked the manuals or read the amp backs. We've sold well over 200 amps now & never a complaint on Serviced or more Upgraded amps until these. It just depends on the Buyer's speakers. Not all Celestion will be hard to drive as the brand will have improved them, but clearly they sold well so they will be out there.
MAINS CABLE UPGRADE.
With all amps we sell, we usually upgrade the earlier amps with a new 72 inch inch 3 core 5A cable. For UK & European buyers the 3-core mains cable is a better way to ensure the amp is grounded. Some amps are still fine with the 2 core or original mains though & we'll show them with the original cable, not our new black round 5A mains cable. In earlier times a Turntable would usually be the item grounding an amplifier but now a CD player or Cable-Satellite TV system won't be properly grounded. These have no grounding or are isolated to stop ground hum loops. A PC computer soundcard will usually be grounded, but a laptop or other portable item won't . We've fitted a few of these to amps we've been using & feel better knowing a true ground exists. We use a black 6mm cable that fits the Strain Grommet holes to keep it neat too. 72 inch length is a typical length used on vintage amplifiers. The main fuse always goes to the Live wire as we make certain, with 2 core wire with both conductors looking the same the fuse can be on either live or Neutral, which isn't so good for UK & EU users. Unlike some amateurs who think putting a 3-core type 'kettle' type socket on 2 core cable is as good, we go back to the mains terminals & do it properly. The idea of our 3-core cable is to properly ground some earlier amps that have a floating mains ground until a grounded turntable is connected. without this if you touch the case & a grounded item you'll feel a very low current electric shock which can be scary & must have got many amps put away in fear.
AWKWARD SPEAKER CONNECTORS?
The type of Speaker Connector vintage amps have varies a lot. For those used to 1980s-Modern amps the 4mm banana plugs or a side hole to tighten cable into with no risk of shorting is what many will know. But the typical connector for Speakers until the early 1970s were just as basic metal screw or thumb screw type connector. See the Hifi Gallery pages for many amps as examples. These were for using Fork-Spade type connectors which you crimp onto bare cables. This was fine at the time & many just used cable like 5A mains wire is. By the early 1970s the spring connector first seen on Marantz & other Japanese amps was popular. These don't age so well with plastic bits falling off & getting untidy. Other sorts of 3mm sockets with side holes for bare cable were used on Sony from 1965-70, these are an early type of conector called a 'wander' connector or split pin type, not much seen today. Pioneer used from 1967-72 their plug in block that you screwed bare cable or fork connectors onto, but be sure many amps lack these as cables unplugged unaware the plugs are needed. They don't grip too tight & for heavier cable than 5A type the plugs will fall out. Then you get the DIN plugs which are useful, if only on 40w or less amps, but care to use new cables only not 40 year old ones that may have issues. By the mid 1970s many used 'better' spring connectors, only really for thinner wire, not the thick types popular since the Hifi mags started hyping them. Don't enlarge the small holes either. To see spring connectors on 150w+ amps looks a bit amateurish now, but they aren't easy to replace neatly & you'll see many 'idiot' jobs on ebay which ruin the integrity of the amp. Don't mess with them, read on... ••••SOLUTIONS? The Hifi mag hype saying you need very thick cables is just a way to sell expensive cable. Look inside the amp & see they use thin wires if they are short. If your speakers are near the amp you can get away with using wire no thicker than 13A mains wire, if the run is under 1 meter. For slightly longer 'QED Balanced Concept' cable with 3mm stranded core is adequate but if you go over 5 meters thicker cable to reduce losses is best. Always add Ferrites onto cables, see our "Cables" page as there is a lot of BS out there about cables. We use Connectors 1 for all amps we test on speakers. The Gold Blocks take 4mm plugs & side holes for bare cable. They fit early USA Amps like Marantz, Fisher & McIntosh and can suit other screw type fittings if not all have a tab to hold them in place, be aware the screw could come loose & short the outputs! These home-made 30A screw block connector, sockets & short wires with soldered ends suits Spring Connectors & those with holes for bare wires, also the 1965-70 Sony. If you screw the blocks onto 4mm plugs it squashes the springs losing grip so we added sockets. To suit other screw connectors that are too difficult such as Fisher which are too narrow for the Gold blocks or have nothing to lock onto, adding Connectors 2 small ring crimp connector is how we'll try these sort of amps. If the Gold blocks only rely on tightening, not a lug part to latch onto, be sure they will come loose & short the amp. Also the plugs with metal sides aren't much good using the Gold Blocks as the Marantz-McIntosh-Fisher early connectors are so close the metal case will short out the amp, best use plastic cased ones or fit heatshrink covers, black tape can move & go sloppy. Connectors 4 we made for a Customer to fit a Fisher 1960s amp as the screw connector grooves are too narrow & too close for the gold speaker blocks. For DIN sockets we just use similar screw blocks onto the DIN cables. You can make them out of 30A mains wire or whatever if stranded cable it better for spring connectors. BUT... it's your Amp & we can fit 4mm sockets if you want. There are many on the market, mostly ghastly Gold-wiped or hugely oversized things that don't suit Vintage. Subtle is the idea. Connectors 3 a buyer wanted fitted to the Sony STR-6050. We used these plastic cased ones on the 1966 Akai AA7000 also. But to do it properly is the idea & these smaller ones without the gaudy Gold actually look in keeping & we didn't feel awful fitting these, they look good & are practical, the screws were not user-friendly without using fork or ring connectors. If it's possible to reuse the original Connectors board the Charge is £30 to fit 4 connectors, £50 for 8 connectors or £70 for 12 connectors, as on one pair to three pairs of speakers. To only do one pair looks amateurish. These are 4mm plugs only, no side screw holes oddly, but too close together to use bare wires so better. We won't use the Gold metal versions of these, they would sit just 3mm apart & are too risky as if + & - touched together at anytime when on, you've shorted the outputs & damaged the amp. The worst connectors are rubbishy plastic screw connectors that don't even tighten well on bare wires that Luxman & Technics used in 1978-79, to replace them is a good idea. Some look like 4mm sockets but actually aren't, such as 1984 Sansui, but if bare wires can be used, best to keep them. But to rip out the 1965-68 Sony ones we'd not like as they are still useable, also ones on rare amps are best left original for collector appeal. Only replace if broken, missing, weak, rubbish or not possible to use the Gold Blocks or ring connectors as described above safely on.
•BUYING AN AMP FROM US?
Ask what we suggest if you don't like the speaker connectors, but these are our current opinions. You do not need to replace good Connectors for Inputs or Speakers with gaudy Gold ones. The Gold is very thin & soon wears off even with handling & starts to look ugly. The chromed Phono sockets as used since the 1960s are the best.
WE MAKE VINTAGE HIFI LOOK EASY...?
Our photos of clean tidy recapped upgraded amps makes this game look easy. No it isn't! Some amps need a huge amount done, undoing bad repairs, redesign is actually fairly common to keep items to our standard. The Hifi we sell is 30 to 50 years old & some are a total nightmare & keep throwing up problem after problem. Amps we get are often nice looking externally but sometimes a disgrace inside & we make sure all is to our fussy standards before we offer it for sale. If you watch "Wheeler Dealers" about car restoration, you'll see the huge problems they get but find machine shops to help as car restoring is decades old. Hifi restoring to our standard from what we've seen is only done by us in terms of dealers restoring gear, there is no help. We see others outbid us on amps we know are really difficult, but often see them back for sale as the buyer realises they are out of their depth. 1960s transistor amps are very advanced jobs sometimes needing an insane amount done, the higher power the amp for the era the harder it can be. We can deal with these things as problem solving is us, but some amps can really mindbend us. But it's satisfying to get an old wreck into use-daily grade again which is why we do it.
CARE WITH USING UPGRADED HIFI WE SELL
We've put high spec upgrades into many of our amps. This means especially with the capacitor coupled era ones pre 1971, the amp needs to settle for a minute or two before use. Sony gets this issue resulting in rustly volume controls but settles to be fine after this. Rather than limit the design, we leave the amps as they are & have warned of this for quite a while on the Upgrades page, but put it here now. Similarly if you don't let the amp capacitors settle, using Tone Controls or some Switches can cause instability. The old designs worked instantly as the spec was low. Similarly amps with relays we often adjust the time delay to cover this if we hear noises. Relays only really appeared by 1971 with the semi-complimentary era if some makers only started using them later & some models don't have a relay at all. Care can be needed as the amplifier isn't limited on Bass & Treble as it was before, a hard drop of a stylus onto a record with the volume up high could give a huge bass boop noise that some speakers might not like.
ALL HIFI WE SELL HAS BEEN EXTENSIVELY CHECKED...
This means we've tried it, cleaned it, serviced it, tested it, adjusted it, likely recapped & upgraded it. Then we've listened to it for some time on both Loudspeakers & Headphones so will sort out any issues we hear. It won't hum, hiss or crackle because we've thoroughly tested it. So you can imagine we know the amp well after that. It's what buyers want: a good reliable amp to plug in. If you get any odd issues, be sure it's Not The Amplifier, but an issue with Your Hifi Items. The Most Common One is Hum or No Sound. We've written a useful "After Sales Help & Advice" section lower down the page as this covers all issues we hear with Hifi buyers as well as ones we note could be issues from trying these amps. Take your Time to Understand The Amplifier. Do not tell us "We're Wrong" as this is proof you've never bothered to try things or read our Help Section so just do the Blame Game. This flags a buyer as an 'Oh Dear...' & to copy bits of the Help Section they didn't read solves the issue. The fact they never reply says they solved their issue & feel embarrassed to not have read things, but this is how it is today. Be a nice complainer, read our Help Section & then ask nicely if you don't understand. We'll help you gladly, but the tiresome sort who lazily accuse for their shortcomings are not going to read this anyway. You did because you can think.
OUR VERSION OF A "GUARANTEE" ON HIFI WE SELL.
All Hifi we sell has been extensvely checked by taking apart to clean & service as well as much time spent recapping, upgrading & listening to it to check all is good. This should be "Guarantee" enough that any amp we sell is properly checked & all is good. Read all our Hifi pages to understand us better. After all, shop guarantees you may get for Six Months are usually a lazy catch-all for not bothering to spend hours checking the item like we do & be sure any aged hifi will develop problems sooner or later, which is why we Recap & Upgrade amplifiers we sell to make them "as good as new" on the important stages. Based on the many we've sold & those we use as references, the failure rate is going to be negligible beyond user error. The trouble with Hifi & Guarantees is the buyer considers they are insured against accidental damage on Vintage Items. On new goods a year guarantee is standard, to cover weaknesses in production so they don't have to check each item individually. Our Policy on "Guarantees" is this: We've fully tested & checked the item so it works correctly. We've used it on Headphones & Loudspeakers as our Review of the amp reveals. So you'll never get a dead amp or one that will fail in a day, because we've tested & used it ourselves. We know of buyers who've shorted the amp out on first try & those who try naughty things, so we have to cover ourselves, we know our upgrade secrets are much wanted as all the guessing on forums reveals. We will not refuse a genuine need by a customer on one of our hifi items, as long as they are reasonable in dealing. We have seen enough amplifiers to tell exactly what happened if there is damage. But if you ever get a problem, be it Six Months ot Two Years later, this is where we are unique: we can help you with that Amplifier or Receiver. We have all our Sales pages photos & we keep note of upgrades we do so can easily refer them to your item. Naturally there are No Freebies, if you've shorted the Outputs, which is sadly quite common, we can repair it for you & get it working again. The cost we charge will naturally depend on what it needs & we are good at finding equivalent electronics parts if needed. The charges will be kept as low as possible, but as with any repair it still is an unknown job. If the cost is in excess of what we'd expect the damage repair to be: there is no obligation beyond the costs to return. Also, if there is no real repair needing to be done beyond something that costs nothing to repair, it'll just cost you the time to check it over & the return courier. Repairs are payable once the quote has been accepted & will be returned usually within 14 days subject to parts availability, If we have the parts in stock, you may get it back a lot faster. This is offered as a Courtesy Repair Service to previous customers, it does not imply any full unlimited Guarantee or Warranty as noted below.
STRICT TERMS OF SALE.
Beyond the above & help below, this is how we sell. We run things tight & will always play fair & will go far to keep a customer happy as used to be the way long ago, but we do need to cover ourselves as there are players out there. We reserve the right to refuse high risk sales. Hifi Sales are by Bank Transfer or IBAN-BIC overseas transfer. Paypal is not an option. All Sales are Final, you are not buying for a Free Home Demo. If you are not sure enough you want it, do not buy. There will always be those who think they can play us with ebay sale or return rules, but this isn't the case here. For those who pretend things are wrong or deliberately damage items to return with the too-understanding way they do, we have heard it all before, don't forget, so this is how we treat timewasters. Any damage if repairable is charged at £35 per hour & charged to the customer & they must bear the return costs. Be sure we can tell exactly what happened to an amp because we are very skilled detectives, which gets extreme faults repaired & upgrades no-one else dares to try done. So on the completed resale of the item you will be refunded less 10% 'timewaster-restocking' fee plus any time spent testing & repairing at £35 per full hour plus parts once the item has sold. The original sale price will stand as we can't reduce it. We have no need to boost costs or pretend things are wrong, read our BS free Hifi pages as proof.
All Hifi we sell is Insured to £250 as standard. If you require higher insurance, please request it. To £500 add £5.00 for UPS, cover to £1000 is possible if Parcelforce can charge £20.00 for £1000 insurance as it varies. Any loss or damage claims are covered only to the amount you request it to be insured for. It is your item, insure it as you wish if loss & damage how we deal is very rare, it is possible. We only use good Couriers like UPS & Parcelforce if nasty Yodel messed up on a Remote Area delivery so we'll never trust them again & now use Parcelforce, Yodel charge £19.00 yet Parcelforce charge double, you gets what you pays for & with Drop-Off services, things have changed in the last year. In insurance claims we know how to play this for success if they try to deny you, it takes skill. Our Hifi is packed well in recycled packaging & it arrives intact. All Hifi is tested fully before packing up to check it's right as it may have been for sale a while. This means we know exactly what we are sending you, so refer to the below Help section if you have issues.
DELIVERY TO REMOTE AREAS & NON UK ADDRESSES.
We mainly use UPS though Parcelforce are as good currently & for some reason things have got lazy as we are using Parcelforce more as the others won't even offer collection-delivery, we don't use Drop Off services for expensive Hifi, but this has taken over recently making Couriers less easy. Hermes are good if more suited to small items, not heavy hifi as it takes too long, we want next day delivery in the UK. For Remote UK Areas such as Scottish Highlands, Parcelforce is the only option sometimes & it can be nearly double the cost as non-remote areas. Others only offer a Drop Off Service which is miles from us. So we will only use UPS or Parcelforce & we don't take risks. In cases as this it will be dealt with as per the customer's instructions.
ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT AMP?
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If you are Interested in having us Upgrade Your Amp, or to Buy One Of Ours, Please Ask Your Questions. We're here to help & selling usually involves some back & forth with emails for the buyer to understand further as well as understand what we would be upgrading. No question that leads to a Sale is a 'Silly Question' as we know Buyers aren't born knowing Hifi & we only know what we know by having the Hifi here to fully understand. If you're not sure and might not buy for not asking, then please Do Ask! But we don't know your Hifi, your tastes, your expectations or room acoustics, so please don't ask if it matches with XYZ... we don't know & no-one else will either, unless they just want to smooth talk you into buying something regardless of it being what you require. If you want our opinion of which Amplifier we have most suits your general idea of sound then we can recommend an amp, but leave it to you to read more on it.
|WE WILL CONSIDER VINTAGE UK VINYL FOR TRADES FOR HIFI OR UPGRADES-REPAIRS.
You can see the sort of Vinyl we deal in. The Rarer, More Wanted & Obscure End of UK 45s & EPs. We aren't interested in scratchy Beatles 45s, LPs or average stuff that's common on eBay for small change. We are interested in good 1950s Rock & Roll, R&B, Blues, Doowop. Early 1960s Popcorn Teen. 1960s Northern Soul, Ska, Mod & all types of 1960s Beat & Psych 45s. The Obscure, Rare & Interesting, similar to what we sell. If you have Nice Stuff to Trade, we can do a deal.
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We reply with a full invoice with all the expected details on plus transfer details. Our Sales Terms are Not Negotiable. All Sales & Upgrades Are Final, you are not buying to have a Free Home Demo or change your mind, if you want that go to a Street Shop & pay their higher prices. If you don't like these terms, they are clearly stated on this page, then We Are Not For You. But as you can see from the amount of Hifi info on this site as well as many Sold Hifi pictures, as well as the large Vinyl 45s stock that we are Responsible Sellers & are here to help. Read this page fully to see. We must also cover ourselves against abuse & scammers too, so no ebay or Paypal as these rules are for our benefit too & it works well. All transactions have a full 'paper trail' so buying from an Established Seller like us is no different to paying by cheque like was how trade beyond Cash was done in the early days of Hifi Mail Order. Similarly if you want us to Upgrade Your Hifi, the dealings are the same.
Notations here: "For Sale" means it is currently For Sale. "Reserved" means a person has ordered it and the invoice is sent, if payment not received. Once the item has been paid, the Item Page is marked 'Sold' and the item is removed from this page, if the Item Page as linked on the invoice still exists still for the buyer to see.
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HIFI WE SELL is Always Serviced. Most are Recapped & Upgraded, see the listing.
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••As of June 2017 users of Windows 8.1 may see corrupted or missing photos on this & the Hifi Gallery page. You can clear your Webcache & DNS cache yet some will still be incorrect. All works fine on Windows 10 & Android Phones-Tablets. BUT.. the solution is to use free 'CC Cleaner' & clean out the index.dat files, then all is OK.
1972 Realistic (Hitachi) STA-150 receiver ↑
32.5w. We've written loads on this & the STA-220 on our Reviews Page & Blog Page. Here's your chance to get the STA-150 as we're keeping the STA-220 as a Reference Amp as it's so good. Sounds much like the STA-220 if just lower power. 'Lost' Great Amp & the two are the Best Amps that Hitachi ever made, based on the earlier SR-1100 receiver & IA-1000 amp. Recapped with lots of upgrades, not perfect grade so a great Bargain here for how great it sounds, as in 'Reference Quality' to us.
1974 Yamaha CR-400 receiver ↑
18w. Lower range in the CR-1000 & CR-800 series, 18w as upgraded it has a fresher sound than the CR-800 with the more upfront CR-1000 sound. Still with the typical smart looks in high grade. Will be recapped on all but Tuner. We thought it sounded surprisingly lively for a lower power amp, puts the similar era 18w-25w Sony to shame. Pre Outs to drive a 50w power amp would match well, as the Preamp isn't a soft sounding one. Unusually great sounding for a later era under 20w amp.
1974 Realistic SA-1500 Amplifier ↑
**UPDATED AMP** 35w. Early Tandy-Radio Shack Japan made amplifier. Great sound & looks like a similar era Pioneer amp. Fresh open sound with good bass & oversized transformer more like a 50w amp. The early Silver Realistic are a world away from the 1980s amps, this has a sound more like a late 1960s amp. Modest looks, great sound & modest price. ***Now UPGRADED with 4mm Sockets instead of the useless Phono output ones. Still has the DIN A&B pair. New photo shows this.
1967 Trio-Kenwood TK-66 Receiver ↑
20w. With ORIGINAL BOX and User & Service MANUALS. Recapped with Upgrades & the power amp board rebuilt with redesigning to bring the best out of it. 20w here sounds great, not some weak thin sound, this is very impressive. In High Grade, AM Tuner works, if FM Tuner doesn't as is sadly typical with 1967-69 trio. The Amp stages are great sounding.
1967 KLH 27 Receiver ↑
This is a 25w amp with Germanium outputs. **110v only**. UK buyers need a step down transformer. This one we've rebuilt-redesigned the power amps to far better spec than the weak original design, all complete & works fine. Classy Designer Amp by Henry Kloss with the Tivoli radio type tuner dials. UK 240v can use this amp with a step down transformer, see the details & link to these on the listing page.
|COMING SOON section...
is just that. Amplifiers & Receivers we will sell here once Completed. Listed in order of being likely ready. Please don't ask for prices or further info "as we don't know - it's not ready yet". Odds are we've not even started on them yet & hifi can be unpredictable as us getting vintage amps is often blind gambling & takes skill to get them working right & be reliable. If you have interest in these, you can ask for First Refusal. Keep Watching...
1971 Sherwood S-7200
40w receiver just in. The design is nearly the same as the later 1972 NAD 160 uses/copied
& in a nicer case. High Grade amp here. To be recapped on all except the Tuner.
BASIC TERMS OF SALE
are quite straightforward. Payment on Hifi Amplifiers buying from this website is by Bank Transfer in UK £ GBP only. This involves IBAN-BIC codes for non UK buyers. We don't sell Hifi on ebay anymore. No Paypal & we can't accept Cards. More terms are on our Payment page on the top menu bar. We'll send by UPS Courier or Parcelforce to most countries, which means a lot of newer EU markets can now get a look in. Delivery must be to a Street Address, No PO Boxes or Storage Facilities are accepted as Couriers won't deliver. To Order any amp, just use the ORDER FORM & put the Amp Title as the Order Number. We book the Courier for Monday-Thursday collection & will email you the Tracking Link once all is paid & ready to go.
You can see we are long established as Record Dealers & have been selling Hifi on & off on ebay with early 2002 sales of a Quad II system in top grade for £1600, a price others have been trying to reach since our sale. We've sold Tannoy 15" Golds, three high grade Garrard 301s we serviced, the Musical Fidelity big pre-power we didn't like as well as over 100 amplifiers & receivers on ebay, a list of many is on the Amps Now Sold-Gallery page. A lot of our previous ebay buyers mentioned our Hifi pages even before we even made a link to our sales from our pages. But as others will sadly know, ebay is now too unsafe to sell high value items on, especially custom items like our Upgraded amps so we will never sell Hifi on ebay again. Buyers can see our Hifi content on this site & decide for themselves if buying direct from us is what they want.
The same terms apply to buyers as you would expect with our Record Sales. You are buying to keep, not for a Home Demo. We'll happily give after-sales help to any buyer if they are not sure of something having problems even a year later, as we keep all our sales photos as reference. We do not do General Repairs or Servicing for any customer though we do Upgrades & Recapping. All Hifi has been fully Cleaned, Serviced, Adjusted & Tested on Speakers & Headphones for many hours by a Qualified Technician. We take them apart to check all is good. We fully test each amp again before packing it up. We clean, test, adjust, run-in test, music-play test, test another day & test again before packing. This reveals any issues which would be corrected & then tested again. This is your Guarantee of getting good Vintage Hifi.
How To Order & Buy.
To buy an Amplifier, just order it. The item will be reserved for 7 days, but may sell on the 8th day to a second buyer if there is no contact, as a reservation isn't a guaranteed sale. On higher priced items, a £100 deposit will secure for 14 days. If you change your mind the full deposit will be refundable within the standard 7 days. Any cancellations after 7 days or non payments after 14 days we'll deduct £20 for having reserved the item but got no sale. After the reservation period has expired, the item will be for sale again to whoever wants to buy it, previous reservations having expired. So therefore only reserve or order items if you have the funds ready.
ESTIMATED POST RATES FOR A TYPICAL AMPLIFIER.
Be aware standard couriers are getting lazy with a recent surge in Drop-Off services but we only use Collect & Deliver ones door to door for expensive goods, so often Parcelforce is the only option at £35.00-£45.00 plus insurance for Remote or N.Ireland, so these quotes below may not be so accurate now, but we'll price non mainland UK ones per order now.
|UK Next Day Mainland £24.00
|Insured to £250 delivered by UPS or Parcelforce 24.
• Insurance to £250 included (adds £10 to Standard Cost).**
• Insurance to £500 add £12.00 extra so £36.00 **
• Insurance to £750 add £24.00 extra so £48.00 **
• Insurance to £1000 add £36.00 extra so £60.00 **
|UK Highlands, Northern Ireland & Remote Areas
likely £35.00-£45.00 insured to £100 delivered by Parcelforce HI
|** These shocking new High Insurance Rates
are the www.interparcel.com ones, recently hugely increased. Be sure other Couriers will charge the same if parcel2go only insure to £50. We can only pass on the charges, do a test booking on their site & see it's their real insurance charge.
|WHAT SHOULD YOU DO?
With how well we pack our Amps, Damage or Loss on amps we send with UPS & Parcelforce hasn't ever happened, if Yodel were the problem ones years ago. To insure to £500 gives enough peace of mind, to Insure to £750 or £1000 is your choice.
|Main EU Countries typically £40.00 GBP
|Insured to £250 mostly delivered by UPS or Parcelforce. Price will be found at the time of ordering as prices vary a lot.
|For Insurance rates, see UK prices
|Rest Of The World
|We post to Most Countries. Price will be found at the time of ordering as prices vary a lot.
A rough idea for a typical amp sized parcel & weight is £80-£130 GBP
|For Insurance rates, see UK prices
NOTES: Basic Price includes Insurance to £250. Cover to £1000 available if it varies a lot & is very expensive as of June 2017. We insure to the value you choose & be sure we pack our hifi very well to expect no claims, But if there needs to be a claim, the payout is to the level paid in Insurance & we are not liable for any differences.
HELP & ADVICE FOR BUYERS.
Do you Know How To Use An Amplifier?
It may seem obvious, but we do get questions that show buyers don't understand how to use Hifi. No-one is born knowing, but if you go to websites you can get Free User Manuals that show you how to use the item. See below for a lot of advice based on Questions we've had on selling Hifi before as it'll sort out all issues, beyond user error. If you find anything you are not sure about... ASK US rather than stumble ahead & damage the amp.
On First Getting Your Amp...
It will be well packed to avoid damage, so just check the box is undamaged when you sign for it. If the weather is cold, it can get cold overnight where the amp has been, you need to Allow It To Warm To Room Temperature before using. If the metal is as cold as milk in your fridge, which is about 2°-5°C, let it sit for an hour in a warm room before plugging in. Room Temperature is about 22°-24°C. Learn the controls of the amp, some are rotary or press buttons if some use levers for various modes & options. If using a Turntable, you must connect the Ground Lead or it makes a high pitched un-earthed sound on Phono. For Tuners, you will often need an aerial to get FM Stereo, anything from a cheap T-shaped antenna to a rooftop one. Do not expect noise-free FM Stereo without one. AM/MW is easier as usually an amp has a built in or externally fitted antenna. Do not turn on the amp before you connect input sources or speakers. Do not risk bare stranded wires tightened onto a screw connector as stray strands usually forms which can damage the amp by shorting it. Sometimes the amp gets a bit shaken up in transport, if it seems a bit less than it should, unplug it from the mains, operate all rotary, push button or levers ten times fully, as in a full turn of a rotary control. This will generally solve any minor issues with these mechanical controls. Any other things you aren't sure of, please ask.
Our Guarantee is written in all these pages.
We know our stuff in Hifi Amplifiers. We fully Service & check every amp fully. All the amps we sell are Upgraded to a certain degree and are fully tested. We've sold nearly 200 amplifiers now & as with anything, people don't understand, which is why the long Help section is below. Most buyers tell us of how they like the amp & are delighted of the quality of goods & the sounds made, as our pictures show. If there is any Genuine Problem, we will sort it out, but having checked & fully tested the hifi, this isn't going to be an issue. We are Responsible sellers, but we know all the tricks too & won't tolerate it. We tell those who are insincere that "We Are Not For You" as we don't want to sell to someone with difficult ideas & most sales of Hifi are made after some email chat, which tells if the buyer is genuine & understands. All Sales Are Final, you are not buying for a Free Home Demo. Our sales & review pages are honest verdicts on amplifiers as you can see with over 200 amplifier reviews on the two reviews pages. If you like our 'No BS' take on Hifi, you've not read pages like this before answering the unanswered questions, then odds are you'll love the Hifi we sell. After all we only pick Hifi we like to try & we'd not bother upgrading an uninteresting amp. If you don't understand, go to Amazon & spend your money on some new thing as... We Are Not For You. But we may be later as you want more out of Hifi, we've had buyers who came back a time later having learned more about Hifi.
All Sales Are Final, you are not buying for a Home Demo
All Sales are Final is the only way to trade with Vintage Hifi. There are sadly scammers out there, ebay especially, who want to steal our upgrade ideas & other sellers tell us of those who steal spare parts & return the rest as well as those who damage items who then expect to be covered for their error. Also those who think a sale is a free home demo, this is a little rude, you can see our terms of sale & to make up your own rules without saying anything isn't acceptable. If you asked for a free demo-sale or return or any other dreamer ideas, we'd refuse, it's clearly stated. Your only option is we can relist it & you deal with the sale, or you list it on ebay linking to our sales page. These rules are not negotiable & by placing an order you agree to these terms. We are here to sell very fairly, but not be taken advantage of. If you want Free Home Demos, make a deal with a shop & pay their higher prices, not that you'll get our upgraded quality anywhere, or go buy from Amazon who do let you do this on new goods. If you aren't sure you want any item, Do Not Buy It until you've emailed us about things or are happy with our sales terms.
Our Hifi may be 30 to 50 years old...
But for the work we do on these amps to make them good enough for daily use, don't let the age put you off. Many pieces of furniture 100-200+ years old are in daily use as being Well Made is the deal with earlier goods. In Hifi the quality started to dip past 1970-71, dipped further by 1978-79 & most modern gear is the quailty of early 1980s-1990s gear & some high priced gear of today is not what the price suggests either. In getting our Hifi, some need a lot of work to be good enough to sell, but as anyone buying Hifi on ebay even from Dealers, the item you get can be in high grade or a laughable mess that never worked & be sure we've had those. But our skills in electronics, electricals & general repair of any item, talents of older generations, will get pleasing results that surprise us even as we'll fix anything until it's too far gone. Some we get "Oh my God what a mess!" but clean it, tidy it & done right an attractive item is often not so far away. Some appear risky to use, but with the work done & much testing, reputations of items can elevate & the 'as arrived' issues fade away seeing & hearing the revived gem. You see this on History channel TV shows like "American Restoration" & "Counting Cars" & we do a similar version of their ideas with Hifi & have been long before these TV shows.
All items are Vintage items sold with No Warranty & No Guarantee.
But be sure we only offer Quality Goods fully checked, used & tested by us first, so we are confident with the item to be offering for Sale. They are Vintage Items of 30-50 years old & as with any Vintage item a fault may occur at any time. Our checking & servicing is intense to find problems & resolve them, we'll only offer an amp for sale we are happy to trust on our speakers & leave on running in for hours. We know weak points in Hifi & will replace anything we see as failing or know the odds of failing. To test each amp for the Power Ratings page as well as write it up on our Top Amps page proves how well we test our Hifi. The typical "Oh It'll Do" ethos isn't ours & to do it properly is the way, especially seeing old repairs that are not to our standard. We'll rebuild the power transistor stages if the wiring looks messy as it's not good enough for what we'd happily use ourselves. All Hifi we get is done to a standard that perhaps we'd keep it as a Reference for a while as upgrading can reveal hidden gems in Hifi. If after reading much of our site, you'd still rather buy unserviced aged hifi to get a 6 month guarantee, then we are worlds apart & we aren't for you & will tell you this.
The 'No Guarantee' doesn't mean you buy & that's it if you get a problem within a week, we are here to Help because we want happy customers, if we are aware some are never happy however much we try as they don't understand things. We do not cover user error therefore but if you are honest about it, we'll repair it for you at cost. If you don't like our Terms of Sale, please don't buy & then think you can tell us what to do when you've damaged it. We don't offer any Guarantees simply because we've spent a lot of time making sure the amp is right as Quality Work done as Standard with our Hifi is worth far more than a 'hope for the best' short guarantee. Read our pages to see what we know & be sure we've checked your potential buy similarly.
We know the world of Electrical Goods, a 30 day warranty one offers covers their costs for not bothering to service or check it out even, will it last 60 days? Did one you had before go bang & start smoking? Nobody experienced checked it is why. Many offer a warranty on work done, so if their low-skilled work fails it's covered, but shows they never used it for hours to be more confident. If a buyer believes any guarantee covers the whole item that is 30-50 years old, it's like with your Car: your new clutch guarantee doesn't cover the gearbox or a dead bulb & you'd not expect it to, right?
We pack Hifi solidly to arrive safely. If there are any Courier issues as they can throw things about, we can sort things for you, but how & what will be dependent on what has happened. Our Sales are Insured as per your Instructions, or £250 is the usual insurance. On Repairs, Servicing & Upgrades this differs slightly. We again Insure to your instructions. else the default insurance is £50. We only use UPS & Parcelforce who are usually very good with Hifi. Any minor issues we may sort out for no extra cost, this is dependent on what the issue is, but any delivery & sending costs are those of the Customer, after all we've packed your item to arrive safely & tested it fully, giving you the details of the item we see before packing up to return. Be sure we'll not hastily return any amps we've worked on until we are satisfied they are reliable & would be expected to be trouble-free. As the Courier is the one delivering the item, we are not liable for Courier damage beyond what you paid Insurance for. We will reuse your packaging & reinforce it if we see it needs it.
A Guarantee or Warranty isn't a free ride if you do get one anywhere: you pay for it like Insurance is. Buy a TV & pay £xxx for a 5 year Warranty & if it goes wrong 5 years & a week later, tough. If you want to pay us extra to get a Warranty, then we're not into the Insurance game. We are not responsible for User Error on goods we know as working correctly & fully tested as advertised & will not offer to repair user error items, please source your own repair service. Please read our pages & you'll see what you'll be getting with Hifi we sell. Then realise you don't need a warranty.
We are Mail Order Only.
If we had a Street Shop buyers could Demo the items & we'd charge a lot more, but having tried new item Demos ourselves, you rarely have much idea if it's good or bad which is why we had & got rid of those Musical Fidelity fast. We properly photo & describe items fully test & use all our Hifi to negate that, as we do with our Record sales by checking each item before posting, as it might have been in stock for some time. Our Record Sales we use ebay as a tiny sample of our stock, the days of listing a larger amount items is gone as ebay doesn't generate much sales as you'll see now by many other sellers forever relisting. For us, ebay is fine for under £100 sales if you send it Trackable. We've not Auctioned anything on ebay for ages, beyond some Classical LPs we were comissioned to sell. We always use Buy-It-Now as we can set our prices well. But we only sell our Hifi here.
We deal by Email & Mail Order Only.
No Home Visits, No Home Demos, No Trade-Ins, No Cash deals on the Doorstep. Pay by Bank Transfer & we'll deliver by UPS is how we deal. On higher priced items a Paypal Deposit will hold for 14 days & will be refunded in full once the Bank Transfer is paid. Any Deposit is returnable in full within 14 days of a reservation, even if the Order does not complete. If we have to cancel a sale after 14 days for non-completion, a 20% deduction may apply based on us having possibly missed a sale once marked 'reserved'.
Buy A Warranty or Guarantee?
Not from Us. You'll have seen the dodgy 'Square Deal' warranties that used to be on ebay but now have vanished with 'Collect At Argos' their latest corporate deal. Square Deal years before used to offer a 'scam' to remove feedback. Now we could offer a 2 year warranty for £300, similar to SD's scam, but the list of exclusions would be very long, as you'd expect. To take money on a Warranty, that 75% of those who believed it was Protecting them but either never used it or weren't eligible, is so anti-our-ideas that we'd rather say get it on your Household insurance & claim that way. We know people are careless & trash the amp in the first hour of having it, we know no-one reads anything or takes the time. We know people think they are Protected and Cared For so they don't have to think anymore or take responsibility, but don't you believe it. This is how your Mobile Phone works: there is no book anymore as no-one uses it, you may just stumble through things & maybe look online if you get stuck. This way means you never find out what the Phone does unless you reel through every menu & spend time understanding it. If you had no Warranty & dropped your Phone on the pavement you'd not expect to be covered, unless you bought Damage Insurance. There is no free ride unless you pay for it. We make sure our Hifi is right & would we gamble our Tannoys trying out unreliable Hifi knowing it could damage them? No we wouldn't.
If you Damage it because You Are Careless...
it is totally your responsibilility, as with anything in life you've not paid Insurance on. It saddens us that people buy premium Hifi we've spent hours on & have fully tested to be good before selling yet it is instantly trashed by a careless person. This is alarmingly often too, people rush in desperate to hear it without taking care in connecting things properly & there's the damage. The usual way is they short the outputs & within a second the amp is damaged. Also if you plug a freezing cold amp in without allowing 2 hours to warm up it can get condensation inside & damage too as water conducts like cable does. If the fuses don't blow & the relay clicks in still, the sound will be distorted on speakers, but sound ok on headphones as the headphone circuit doesn't draw much current unlike the speaker which is connected directly. See, we even tell you here what you've done as this issue is so common. Because of Human Nature being to blame others for your failings & not take responsibility, our policy is simple: you prepay us to repair the output transistors & we'll fix it for you & send it back. We'll give you a damage report & if it makes you feel stupid, then that is good as you will have learnt the hard way to take more care. An alternative is we'll tell you the transistors to get & tell you basically how to do it, any work you do naturally is your own responsibility & we'll not give step-by-step instructions to those who don't know what they are doing. If you choose to force the issue & return it we'll repair it as a fresh job deducting our costs from the price you paid once we resell the item, priced as parts plus labour to repair, check & retest at £35 per hour. If the item is unrepairable or you've stolen parts, you'll just get it back. We know all the tricks people try. As stated above we offer No Warranty & No Guarantee beyond the fact it has been professionally serviced, upgraded & thoroughly tested by the same person who writes all these pages about hifi. If you still think because you damaged it that we've not tested it fully on speakers as well as rating it on our Power Ratings page and Top Amps page, then you shouldn't be buying vintage gear. The right thing to do is Ask Us if you are unsure about anything. A Stupid Question to you is a Good Question to us if it stops you getting into problems.
After Sales Help & Advice we do offer...
We've sold quite a few Amplifiers & receivers now. Since having put our pages online buyers understand Old Amplifiers better which makes selling easier, but we have written this as advice to help things along & it appears to have worked very well. It's how most people are, if someone doesn't understand, they'll blame first, so we tread gently as Egos can easily be bruised. You may feel insulted your item "isn't working right" and we may feel insulted "that you doubt our Qualified workmanship", so it works both ways. Educate yourself or stick to buying new items instead.
Buyers not familiar with these "traditional" Hifi items do need to take the time to learn what their item does & to check the inputs they use are plugged in correctly and are working. We request you let us know your issues & as we know our subject well, we can usually sort it for you, if this page hasn't helped. If you need our help, be nice in your messages for best results.
We usually use UPS Couriers to Deliver your item Worldwide and we pack them well to survive the journey, so check the box looks in good order before signing for it. Rarely the Couriers are careless and do mess up & damage an item and if this is the case, sign it as "Damaged" and let us know. Your item is always sent Fully Insured so with Photo evidence a claim can be made.
If you have something you don't understand, describe in detail what you are hearing or noticing. Even in everyday terms, we can understand what the "fault" is & we'll point you in the right way, be aware as we service, repair & upgrade Hifi we know every fault there is & can usually tell very quickly exactly what caused the issue in amps we get. Other "faults" you'll encounter as we do, simply as you're not born knowing an amplifier, you need to learn it. You can get free user manuals if you search online.
As you may imagine dealing in vintage electrical goods, even to the very high standards we reach, there are those who will think despite all we write & claim, think we are wrong and them, unqualified & trying the old bluff, are right. Us being good with the words can talk down a jumper on a clifftop so it's not hard for us to convince the non-believer into agreeing we're right with being able to prove the cause of their issue which on being given a direct response can deal with it, some just quietly fade away unable to admit they were wrong, human nature. It's all a part of Customer Service so we should expect this and we do so even if we get someone directly saying "I consider the work you did to 'xxx' has done 'xxx' and it wasn't like that before..." then we need to explain to them what service or goods they have bought, how we tested it & ran it in & give them the hints lower down the page, as they never read them before blaming. We'll think they are rude but to ignore the bait & calmy reply is the way to deal with an awkward customer. For this sort of reason, we will not offer Guarantees or Warranties as the easy-claim-blame eBay culture has made selling very hard. Hifi is a sealed box to most people & as with cars if one part unrelated to the failed part was repaired, they think the whole item is guaranteed. We don't deal in BS & we won't take it either, you don't have to deal with us, but you'll be glad you did.
These Help items will solve all your issues & we are here to help, but once a customer gets hostile, demanding or threatening, do not expect us to put up with that, so be nice, leave out the accusations as you will always get further by editing your replies to sound mellow rather than aggressive.
Shaken Up By The Courier?
The way parcels go through the system means we pack the amp to protect & cushion it, but it could still get shaken up a bit, if not damaging it. Vintage Amps are strong items & having had ones well bashed up by the cheaper couriers, most survive even if the outside is marked. If it might have just got shook up a bit by the courier, leave it switched off & go through all the controls switching several times & doing full rotations of tone volume input etc. Lever switches especially seem to get this issue as they rely on a soft touching of contacts, rather than the more substantial older rotary selectors.
Been Out In The Cold?
We'd assume buyers would know to let a freezing cold electrical item sit for an hour or two to warm up to room temperature before using. This is because it's been left in an unheated warehouse or vehicle in the colder weather. Condensation (water) forms & water + electricity aren't good. We get amps arriving half frozen & they cloud up with inside humidity, but 2 hours later they are fine again. Turning an amp on too early when it's clearly very cold outside is not recommended.
Only One Channel Works Now!
It worked, sounded distorted then no more! Assuming you've got everything plugged in correctly, you may have commited the Cardinal Sin in amplifiers: shorted the outputs together. This sadly is the most common user-based fault. Some amps with protection circuits will warn you by cutting the sound, but generally the output stages will be damaged & need repair. Just ONE STRAND of errant wire can do this. Zero resistance & current increases to destroy the output transistors. Check for blown fuses on Speaker fuses or the entire amp. Take care & you'll be fine.
It Works On Headphones But Not Speakers...
If it plays on Headphones then the Power Amp is fine. You'll not have blown any Fuses & the Inputs will be correct. Your Fault is your Speaker Cables may not be properly connected, a spring connector isn't correctly wired up, a plug on the speakers came loose. This is one you can investigate & remedy easily.
The Amp Gets Very Hot & Makes Funny Noises
We mention this above, about Older Amps only being Suitable for 8 Ohm speakers. See above with PRE 1970 AMPS ARE BEST SUITED TO 8 OHM SPEAKERS. If you use 4 Ohm speakers that can be marked as 4-8 Ohm, it can't be 2 values, it's 4 Ohm. The Amp "complains" by getting hot etc as you are Overdriving It & are sort of on the edge of trashing it by pushing it too far. Either use different Speakers or add a 4 ohm resistor to the + side of the speaker cable, you don't need to add two, as one makes it 8 ohm, two makes it 12 ohm. We now mark all amps as Suitable for 8 ohm speakers only to cover this. It means not all amps & speakers match well.
The Amp Has No Bass and Sounds All Phasey!
This is because you connected the speaker cables wrongly. Most amps are with connectors + - - + but some are different & you need to look closely if not obviously 'Red' or 'Black' marked. If this is correct, check your cables. All proper Hifi cable will have one of the pair marked so to be sure + goes to + and - goes to -. If these are wrong then you get No Bass & a Grand Canyon Phasey effect that sounds weird. Easy to remedy, look closer. Be sure to turn the amplifier off & let the capacitors discharge for at least a minute before swapping cables, to remove the risk of shorting the amp, as it still holds voltage even after switching off.
Check Your Cables, Swap Your Cables!
We had one person say the amp only worked on one channel. We may assume you have a clue how to use Hifi. Everyone knows how to use Hifi but blames the seller because the buyer can't think as is the way today... The problem here was the amp has Phono sockets closely spaced as is found on many UK amps & some earlier Pioneer too. This means if you use £4.99 "Hifi" cables bought on ebay, these can be too chunky to fit neatly into the Phono socket. We'd think it'd be obvious as one would be sticking out a bit... Human nature will be to force it but odds are it'll not go or break something. But unless you properly plug something in, it'll not work as it is a wired connection. Also these cheap blue gold rinsed cables are pretty rubbish quality & we used some for a short while only to find the copper wire inside is so thin with the big outer plastic that after some use the strands break & "the amp appears faulty". The customer does no simple cable swapping or even swapping L to R to "see if the amp is broken on the other channel". Yes, it's hard to type this without being too salty as it's elementary stuff, but be sure new gear shops hear this all...the...time. We write these help pages but this person never read as they know better. Still, it cost them ££ in courier costs instead of thinking a little or getting some new cables. Be aware the cable will break sometime & you pulling out of one to go into the new one can be that time. The cable we use has soldered connections yet often needs repairing with the amount of cable swapping we do. We just chop off the bad bit & resolder it anew, but it'll not last forever even with the best plugs with strain relief springs or sheath. Things bend & break with use or being Uri Geller'd. Metal can only take so many bends unless it is spring steel.
Plugging In Or Removing Input Connecting Cables
If you do this with the Volume turned up past zero, there is a chance you could damage the amp. Amps differ in how they connect the Ground of the Input & leaving the centre Phono pin just in before the ground conects could put a loud noise through the amp which can overload it. A thing you only know by error or someone tripping over untidy cables can do similar. To be safe, always turn the Amp off before plugging in or removing cables. If you trust the volume is turneed down to zero, be sure you might have turned Bass down by mistake & still damage it, so always Turn It Off first.
Two Or Three Speaker Sets Connected?
Later amps added a notice about only using 8 ohm speakers if you are connecting 2 or more pairs, but earlier amps didn't. The reason is the Speaker Load can be 8 ohms with one speaker, but 4 ohms or even 2 ohms with more speakers. This can put a serious overload onto an amplifier & it'll react dangerously to this overloading with excess heat & irrepairable damage. If you use two pairs of 4 ohm speakers at the same time you are risking serious damage & making a fire risk by overloading the amplifier. An amplifier can take 4 ohms, but halving it to 2 ohms doubles the current it draws & problems occur.
If You Have Damaged The Amplifier Yourself
This does occur if you are careless or use our item with damaged items that other Hifi may not reveal so readily. We do not offer a repair service & your damage is of your own concern, even if you damage it 1 minute after plugging it in after it arrives, so be careful, do not rush your first use. If the Hifi is very cold, let it sit at least an hour in a warm room before turning on as condensation (water) can form. We service & run in our amps to be sure they are good to sell, but to offer Warranties & Guarantees at our isn't going to happen as noted above. You see the high prices Hifi shops with Guarantees charge & understand why. Fixing amps for over 20 years we can often tell you the life the amp has had & pinpoint what put it out of service. You may call us Experts. We don't offer any repair service as it'd involve 2 extra Courier journeys & the risks that involves as Couriers sadly do damage items, especially Yodel & City Link! But we will be aware of the amp & still keep the photos & we can help you along with your repairs but you'll have to source your own repair company.
It Sounds Perfect On Headphones But Distorted On Speakers
This one is becoming a common issue we hear of with amps, ones we get or hear of later. the Speaker Cables have shorted even momentarily, two seconds is long enough to damage output stages. If you use Headphones, it sounds great still. This is because a Headphone works through a resistor giving no direct connection to the power amp. On average amps this is 500 ohms resistance, your Speaker has usually 8 ohms so will draw full current & then as the output stages are partly damaged, it clips out. Amplifier outputs can partly damage & not blow fuses, but the only remedy is to replace the full set of Transistors affected. It can affect other stages of the amp too, so to just replace output transistors often won't solve the issue. One for the repair tech. If you have Speakers connected, but a switch puts the Speakers off, then the Speakers are not connected to the live amplifier. But if you put the Speakers AND Headphones on together, the Headphones will sound distorted too. If you find this issue with an Amplifier, turn it off Quickly. It can put an unsafe DC voltage on the speakers & trash them. High powered speakers may not be affected, but lower power ones less rugged will fry.
No Sound Even With Inputs Plugged In Correctly!
Recheck the input really is plugged into the right input. If using a soundcard check the volume isn't muted & the right source output is selected. Check Tape or similar isn't on. Check the speaker switch is selected & that the Headphones are plugged in correctly, not into a Mic socket or another item.
No Sound On FM Even With An Aerial Connected!
Check "Mute" isn't set on as it will only play sound on the strongest stations unless you unswitch Mute. If you only use a basic 'T' type aerial, don't expect good results, noise free FM stereo or Muting to work right, some Tuners will not play FM Stereo if the noise level is too high from a weak aerial, which is a user issue.
Only Plays One Channel On Headphones!
Check the plug is fully plugged in else it won't connect properly.
The Sound Is Very Loud & Horribly Distorted!
You've plugged a Line Level source item into the Phono stage which is only for input directly from a Turntable. Many budget price mini or system type Record Players inc USB ones have a built-in phono stage that will output a full line-level signal, so use Aux instead
Nothing Works Though It's All Plugged In!
Check it actually is plugged in, not another cable that looks like it, be it mains or input connectors. Check it's Switched On. Check the Socket with another item.
It Doesn't Sound Very Good On Speakers!
Beyond user errors, some amps don't match very well with all speakers yet some can do. We've tested your amp on small modern speakers at least as well as our Tannoys, but there are no guarantees any speaker will match any amp.
The Tuner FM Sounds Noisy & Very Poor!
You need a proper aerial with an Analog Tuner to receive a Stereo transmission clearly. A bit of wire will pick up stations, but it picks up noise & will not bring the best sound. Using the Mono switch or similar will make FM sound better until you use a better aerial.
My Input Worked Properly On Another Amplifier!
Check another input if you hear something that is not expected, your Sound Card on your Computer or any other input could be faulty. Volume could be turned down or Muted, or you've plugged in or selected the wrong Input! Some modern items you may use may have a different impedance to a 30-50 year old amplifier, these issues are beyond our control. Some items you use can have faults that a lesser quality amp won't pick up but to use a better recapped upgraded serviced one will reveal problems that lesser amps will hide through being off spec. We test using a MM cartridge from a Record Player & Line Level from our Computer Soundcard.
My I-Phone, Or Similar Portable Device, Sounds Awful Played Through The Amplifier
Really. Are you expecting Hifi sound from a Portable Device? You can plug these into Amplifiers & Computer Soundcards, but they Sound Awful, oddly like a Telehone Call Quality as that'sd the Fidelity the Phone is used for.
The Amplifier Hums!
This is because your other items are creating an Earth Loop, or the cables, other items are defective. Also Vintage Amps may only have a SN ratio of 65-80db which means background hiss & hum can be audible, but not affect music. Unplug Everything from the Amp except Speakers, turn it on, turn it up quite loud? No Hum now beyond typical light background noise? Then the items You Are Using Have The Issue, the Amplifier is fine. Swap the L+R inputs, does the Hum now move to the other channel? Your other items have the issue. Please do not tell us we are wrong because we fully test items & every single time, as this page of Help Advice shows, it's a User-Based issue. Ask us nicely & we'll help you, if probably just tell you to read this page deeper.
The Amplifier Hums Loudly With Bass Up Full & Volume Very High with No Source Playing!
Really. As we've heard this one now, we'll explain: the amp has a noise floor of about 80dB on earlier amps without the overdesign on later amps that makes them almost silent with 120dB. Why you need to turn it up very loud with no music playing makes no sense, you'll forget it's loud & play music & blow your speakers. Depending on the design, the bass control being after the volume control means the full 'noise' of the tone stage, as treble will bring up the hiss, will be audible.
We Later Moved The Amp To A Different Place & Now It Hums!
Oh really? Can't you think just a little here? If it worked fine before you moved it & assuming you didn't trip over down a flight of stairs with it leaving you a little dozy, the answer is... you have external issues. The amp might be the other side of a non-brick partition wall that has a thermostat, a noisy fridge motor. the house mains box or issues like incorrect or failed ground connections somewhere.
Why It Hummed When You Moved The Amp To A Different Place...
Some amplifiers do not have a full metal shielded case. This is quite common by the early-mid 1970s & those with just a Wood or Vinyl Wrap Case can pick up Hum from items nearby or put on top as it picks up the radiation from the other Mains Transformer when it's switched on. Searching online will tell you more, Eddy Currents & the like. The solution is to move the item that gives the hum away or add some of that aluminium tape, like that which gets put behind radiators, inside the lid, being very careful of loose or stray bits of it.
There Are Crackly Clickly Noises When No Music Plays!
Got the amp grounded via another unit if it has 2 core mains only? No? You're picking up interference! Soundcards can be a source of interference if the amp has a ground connection also as you ground the amp via the computer to & bring up the computer noise like mouse movements & processor noise, this is a symptom of an Earth Loop.
The Sound Is Strange & Phasey Grand Canyon Effect!
On some amps bass & treble controls are ganged L+R on one control, get one set different to the other & there's an imbalance strangely... You could also have wired the speakers up wrongly with the + and - swapped, be sure to turn off the amp & let it settle before disconnecting & reconnecting speakers.
Volume Control Turned Very Low Just Before Zero Still Plays Music On One Channel!
Until modern times most potentiometer type volume controls often had channel imbalance as this was the technology of the time. It's just how it is. To replace Volume controls is never recommended. The amp will generally play very loud at 2 on the volume, showing the input signal is too loud or the speakers are of too high dB efficiency for your use. You see some amps with 4 gang volume controls to use 2 pots to ensure volume balance is more even, the Yamaha CR-2020 has this if the CR-1020 doesn't
One Channel Is Louder Than The Other!
Most older amplifiers have a Balance control to match the Left Channel to the Right Channel Volume, some get louder at the extremes rather than quieter, as designed. Hardly anyone uses them, but make sure it's adjusted midway to make the Sound equal. Or your input could be faulty so swap cables.
I Don't Know How To Connect It! What Does This Do? Where Does That Go?
This is a tricky one, but we've heard it now! We'd expect you to have an idea how to connect things. If you don't know how to connect mains & hifi related items, or how to connect an item you are paying money for online, then simply we suggest you shouldn't be buying items like this. How do you know you even need it?
Bass Clips Out Or Distorts With The Volume Set Quite Low!
Some amps have a huge amount of bass gain on the tone controls, up to 18db. Modern amps usually have 6 to 10db gain, so roll back the bass control a few notches. Similar if treble is too bright.
If I Play It Really Loud It Sounds Distorted!
Why are you surprised it does? An amp has a finite amount of power & if you play it really loud into small speakers that are always of low sensitivity, you are playing it into the clipping region that could damage the tweeters. Some amps play louder than others for their power rating, some are more modest. The key to high volume from an amp is more a case of having high efficiency speakers than high wattage as there could be 20dB difference in volume between small & large PA type speakers. If you want the volume the Marshall Guitar Stacks have, look at their specs compared to small speakers.
Phono Stages - Tape Head Inputs
are for Low Level Moving Magnet (MM) Cartridges only. Do not plug a CD player, TV, i-Pod or any Turntable that has a built in Equaliser Amplifier into this socket as you may Overload & Damage it as you will be putting 2v maximum into an Input that uses 20mV usually, ie 100 times smaller. On pre 1970 amps you see a 'Tape Head' input, this is for direct connection to the Tape Head of an Open Rell-Reel to Reel tape player to not use the player's internal ones or if they never had one. It's use today is obsolete beyond using old tape recorders.
It Fades Like We've Turned It Off But We Haven't
Assuming it's not a Power Cut or House Fuse failure, this means you are doing something seriously wrong with a speaker connection or playing it much too loudly into inefficient speakers & the Protection Circuit is triggering. It may or may not work right again on the next time you try after turning off or not, depending on what has happened.
Don't Plug In Sources With The Amp Switched On
Sometimes why you've damaged the Amp is plugging in a Source with the amp switched on. Some amplifiers only get True Ground from items being connected, if there is no Ground wire in the cable, this is the sort & we do rewire these ones now. What can happen is the Source you plug in might not be properly connected & it'll put whatever voltage potential there is, ie 4v AC, straight into the amp & blow the output stages! So always turn off an Amplifier before connecting, or at least set the volume to Zero to save upsets.
Hum Gets Louder When The Volume Goes Up?
A variation on the note above. Your input source or cables have a grounding problem, ie they're damaged. Having 2 separate items plugged into the amp that are Grounded at 2 points creates an earth loop & you need to buy a Ground Insulator. To confirm this, unplug everything from the amplifier except Speakers or Headphones. Go to the Input that had Hum & see it doesn't now. Search Google for "Mains Hum Problems" and you'll read how complex the issue of Mains Grounding is, but once understood & connected right it'll be fine.
The Bulb Stopped Working!
As you'll know with any incandescent lightbulb, it can work fine then fail the next time you turn it on. With Hifi the little bulbs can often be got working again with cleaning contacts or simply removing & replacing, unless the filament has obviously failed. No seller can guarantee vintage bulbs will last for any time & may fail in transit. Any we note that have failed we replace & the amp is used several times & for some hours to see all is good. We'll help you identify the values, but Bulbs are strictly 'sold as seen'.
We Know Nothing But We Think You're Wrong!!
Some buyers who take no time to learn the Amplifier we've spend many hours getting right, will rudely & thoughlessly tell us We Are Wrong because of their inability to learn things or read this page. For the fact they'll never read this, be sure every person involved in selling or services gets this all the time. People today want spoonfeeding & not to take any sort responsibility so will blindly accuse because of their ignorance. No, we are Not Wrong, you haven't understood something. If you are one of those tiresome Accuse Before Think sorts, you'll get a nicer response by not accusing as we'll happily help. So instead of ignorantly saying You Cheated Us, calmy say your issue in a Polite Way & you'll get pointed in the right direction. If you do accuse, be sure of a Stern Reply explaining things. We know people aren't born knowing things, or are as investigative as we are, so we'll help you if you ask nicely, but to do a little sensible searching for an answer first instead of having a 'Barraco Barner' moment.
**Beware Of The Complex World Of Grounding Issues!
Ground hum loops are a problem. If you plug one unit into one plug socket & another into a different one which could be in the same room & there is a slight ground potential difference that results in hum or noise of some sort. All your hifi TV in one room should be connected via 1 adaptor trailer plug to keep grounding equal, but note max wattage. If your connecting wires are too long, there can be hum too. The worst hum is when a cable-TV cable isn't isolated, the earth loop hum is huge. You may need to buy a RCA phono plug isolator to stop any audio earth issue.
**High Frequency Noises
On upgrading amps, we always test to be sure the amp doesn't pick up RF noises. You can get similar high pitched noises with Ground Loops, some amplifiers with ground cables create a random white noise if another Grounded item is plugged in, such as we hear with the Computer Soundcard sometimes. If this is an issue, you need to search online about Ground Loops & this will remedy it for you. We know an easy fix, but it's not to be putting online.
**Mains Wiring & Earth Connections
Some amplifiers do not have an Earth cable, and require Earth connection via another unit. A 3 core cable including Earth is not always how the item was designed. If in Doubt, Consult A Qualified Electrician. For amps we know from testing that have an AC voltage on the case to ground, as noted above, we'll rewire it with 3 core mains to avoid issues as not everyone uses a turntable these days.
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